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Welcome to the Beyond 6 Seconds podcast, where we share extraordinary stories from everyday people. Each episode features inspiring stories of life and creativity, triumph and struggle. I interview people who are starting their own businesses, giving back to their communities, and working with exciting new technologies to advance our world. We also talk about specific ways that our listeners can help support them and their work, so that their stories can continue to evolve.  Who knows, their stories may even provide you some extra inspiration to develop your own talents and passions!

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Sep 16, 2019

On this episode I talk with Gail Tolstoi-Miller -- an award-winning dual CEO, experienced recruiter, author and global keynote speaker -- about unconscious bias in hiring. Having personally felt the impact of unconscious bias early in her life, she now works with her corporate clients to raise awareness of unconscious bias and helps job seekers combat unconscious bias and even use it to their advantage. Gail also gave a TEDx talk on unconscious bias in hiring and recently launched her online course about this topic on Udemy.

Gail shares her thoughts, insights and advice on:  

  • What unconscious bias is, and why everyone has it
  • How unconscious bias shows up in the hiring process
  • The personal experiences that solidified her desire to bust unconscious bias
  • How she challenges her clients’ bias, starting with two simple words: "So What?"
  • The drawbacks of cherry-picking diversity
  • How affinity bias hinders creativity and innovation in an organization, and trickles down to their customers and clients
  • What it was like preparing and presenting a TEDx talk, how it has helped her brand and business … and what to do when you forget part of your talk on stage
  • What the dreaded word “overqualified” really means
  • How job seekers can use unconscious bias to their advantage

Connect with Gail on LinkedInFacebook or via email at , and check out her TEDx Talk and Unconscious Bias Course on Udemy.


Gail's full bio:

Gail Tolstoi-Miller is an award winning dual CEO. She is CEO of Consultnetworx, which provides recruiting, diversity and unconscious bias strategy services. In addition, she is CEO of Careernetwork, a career and business coaching organization. Gail is also the author of the award winning book "Networking Karma", a guide on how to network successfully with giving. Lastly, she is a global keynote speaker and gave an unhinged TEDx talk on Unconscious Bias in hiring.